Posted: 2nd January 2004 22:00
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I think I might be going over old ground here but what the hell...
By using the FFVI editor you can get Gogo as early as Figaro Castle in WoB. All you have to do is swap one of the field monsters for the Zone Eater and get 'Engulfed' as normal. Hey presto, you will now be in Gogo's lair! When you meet Gogo, use the Warp spell or a Warp Stone to escape and you will back in the WoB! Also, do not use the light at the begining of the cave as you will come out on the Triangle Island in WoR and will not be able to escape! (no Airship see....). Im not too sure if this will crash the game later on, as I have not really played the game since. I am also 99% sure someone has discovered this before me and will close the topic if needed. -------------------- Chrono Triggers rock super-group: Ozzie - lead singer from Black Sabbath Flea - Bassist from Red Hot Chilli Peppers Slash - Guitarist from Guns 'n' Roses He drinks and smokes his cares away His heart is in the lonely way Living in the ruins Of a castle built on sand... Tell The King - The Libertines |
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Posted: 2nd January 2004 23:28
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Didn't you already post this in another thread?
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Posted: 3rd January 2004 00:20
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I did, but I did not get any repsonse to it. I'm just curious to see if anyone else has discovered this (more than likely though).
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Posted: 3rd January 2004 04:13
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That's interesting. I'll try it out if I have time...
But I assume you'll have to beware the monsters, since won't they still be the same WoR monsters? -------------------- Check the "What games are you playing at the moment?" thread for updates on what I've been playing. You can find me on the Fediverse! I use Mastodon, where I am @[email protected] ( https://sakurajima.moe/@glennmagusharvey ) |
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Posted: 3rd January 2004 16:01
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That's an interesting loophole, although it wouldn't surprize me if it locked up the game at some point (more on this later). I imagine the monsters would be the same inside the cave, but you can probably run from every battle. You would just have to revive a party member or two after each encounter. Isn't that right Dirk Diggler? What level is Gogo at when you get him? Is that dependant on your other characters' levels?
If you get Gogo as early as Figaro castle, I'm sure that would cause problems at times when you're supposed to have 4 characters (like when getting Sabin), along with the 3 scenarios, talking to Ramuh in Zozo (especially with Gogo alone) and any other event involving all characters. You could probably do the esper cave and the floating continent with Gogo but that's about it. -------------------- FFXI (Siren server) Tauu the Windurstian Tarutaru! White Mage & Paladin |
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Posted: 3rd January 2004 23:32
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I must admit that I also created super-items which I equipped Locke and Terra with. These made them pretty much invincible. I also changed all the monsters in the area around Figaro/Narshe so I levelled up really quickly (I got to level 52 on both charatcers in about 2 hours play!). So tackling Gogo's lair was a bit too easy.
I got Gogo on pretty much the same level as Locke and Terra and he can only mimic the abillities that they have. I haven't really played it since so I do not know how far you can get with him, I am assuming that there is no way he will survive much beyond Mt Kolts as the party will be maxed at 4 when you get Edgar and you need to pick up Sabin as you said 90east. I'll keep you posted as to what happens and how far I get with him. -------------------- Chrono Triggers rock super-group: Ozzie - lead singer from Black Sabbath Flea - Bassist from Red Hot Chilli Peppers Slash - Guitarist from Guns 'n' Roses He drinks and smokes his cares away His heart is in the lonely way Living in the ruins Of a castle built on sand... Tell The King - The Libertines |
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Posted: 3rd January 2004 23:34
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Quote But I assume you'll have to beware the monsters, since won't they still be the same WoR monsters? You will, unless you edit the monsters, too. -------------------- Wow. 1,000 posts. I miss you all now that I'm in boarding school! ;_; |
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Posted: 4th January 2004 00:14
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![]() It was kinda weird as Edgar looked as if he was just staring at Gogo and wondering just who the hell he was! ah well, it was fun while it lasted! This post has been edited by Dirk Diggler on 7th January 2004 22:54 -------------------- Chrono Triggers rock super-group: Ozzie - lead singer from Black Sabbath Flea - Bassist from Red Hot Chilli Peppers Slash - Guitarist from Guns 'n' Roses He drinks and smokes his cares away His heart is in the lonely way Living in the ruins Of a castle built on sand... Tell The King - The Libertines |
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Posted: 4th January 2004 01:52
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Now, heres a thought I had, and feel free to tell me if it is incredibly stupid:
Even though the game locks up at Figarao, would it be possible to edit some Narshe monsters to ZoneEaters and get swallowed while you still have Biggs and Wedge in the MagiTek armor? Sure, it wouldn't last long, but it would be interesting to see Gogo mimic some MagiTek attacks. I know nothing about editors so I don't know if it would work or not, but it might be a neat experiment for some intrepid soul. -------------------- Blood & Fire |
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Posted: 4th January 2004 02:19
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Ive just tried to do as you suggested Raging, but when engulfed by Zone Eater,
it just spews you back to the start of the mines. The worm obviously can't digest magitek! -------------------- Chrono Triggers rock super-group: Ozzie - lead singer from Black Sabbath Flea - Bassist from Red Hot Chilli Peppers Slash - Guitarist from Guns 'n' Roses He drinks and smokes his cares away His heart is in the lonely way Living in the ruins Of a castle built on sand... Tell The King - The Libertines |
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Posted: 4th January 2004 02:25
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Then maybe try it when Terra is walking around in the mines. It might work
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Posted: 4th January 2004 06:09
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It might crash around Figaro and the likes, but after you get the Blackjack, and thus are allowed a lot of freedom party-wise, you might be able to get it to work.
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Posted: 5th January 2004 03:53
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Quote (Dirk Diggler @ 3rd January 2004 19:14) ![]() It was kinda wierd as Edgar looked as if he was just staring at Gogo and wondering just who the hell he was! ah well, it was fun while it lasted! so he actually joins then? I thought he would be "joining" you and wait in airship/narshe or something >_> -------------------- I will be there... |
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Posted: 5th January 2004 04:27
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i suspect it would crash when you get sabin, as your party only has room for 4 members.
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Posted: 5th January 2004 05:31
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Gogo's stats are still the same, right?
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If you recieved Gogo in WOB and took him out of the party, where would he be in the WOB airship?
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Posted: 5th January 2004 22:51
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Dancing on the casino table. Probably.
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Posted: 6th January 2004 19:04
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Quote so he actually joins then? I thought he would be "joining" you and wait in airship/narshe or something >_> He actually joins straight away. Just use Warp or a Warp Stone to leave his cave and he will then be in your party! Im not too sure what happens if you get him when you have the Blackjack. Maybe this is a challenge for someone to try. I would do it myself but I currently have only just entered South Figaro. This post has been edited by Dirk Diggler on 7th January 2004 00:16 -------------------- Chrono Triggers rock super-group: Ozzie - lead singer from Black Sabbath Flea - Bassist from Red Hot Chilli Peppers Slash - Guitarist from Guns 'n' Roses He drinks and smokes his cares away His heart is in the lonely way Living in the ruins Of a castle built on sand... Tell The King - The Libertines |
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Posted: 6th January 2004 23:30
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My only question is.....what would happen once you go tto the World of Ruin? You've already gotten Gogo at that point, so he won't be there again....would he be gone for good?
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Posted: 7th January 2004 00:23
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Quote My only question is.....what would happen once you go tto the World of Ruin? You've already gotten Gogo at that point, so he won't be there again....would he be gone for good? I've got to be honest, the ammount of questions and posibilities this 'bug' raises are almost infinite. I am assuming that if you have Gogo in any of the 'cut' scenes in the game before you are supposed to get him, it will crash as the game has not programmed him into any of it. It will take a brave soul to sacrifice a save file just to see if Gogo survives each cut scene and how far you can get with him. This post has been edited by Dirk Diggler on 7th January 2004 00:26 -------------------- Chrono Triggers rock super-group: Ozzie - lead singer from Black Sabbath Flea - Bassist from Red Hot Chilli Peppers Slash - Guitarist from Guns 'n' Roses He drinks and smokes his cares away His heart is in the lonely way Living in the ruins Of a castle built on sand... Tell The King - The Libertines |
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Posted: 7th January 2004 20:47
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You can probably use an emulator's save state feature to test these out. To have hacked into the game to get Gogo in the first place, I would assume that you've got an emulator anyways, so...
But shouldn't you be able to play up to a certain point with Gogo and even if you freeze the game be able to load state and experiment around with it? -------------------- Check the "What games are you playing at the moment?" thread for updates on what I've been playing. You can find me on the Fediverse! I use Mastodon, where I am @[email protected] ( https://sakurajima.moe/@glennmagusharvey ) |
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Posted: 7th January 2004 22:32
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Your right you know Glenn....
Thinking about it, you can just use trial and error and see how far you can get with him. Its just a matter of not saving once you have Gogo and taking him through each scenario one by one. This way when it does crash, you can just go back to your last savestate before you got Gogo. The only problems with this I can see is the ammount of time you will need to spend messing around trying to change the area monsters to Zone Eater each time you come to a new part of the game. You can also never save it with Gogo in your party as it may crash at any time and a save file will be ruined! I am going to take this project under my wing and see how far you can get with him in WOB. Hopefully finding out if and when he can be had in the party crash free, and if it really is worth all the bother! This post has been edited by Dirk Diggler on 7th January 2004 22:34 -------------------- Chrono Triggers rock super-group: Ozzie - lead singer from Black Sabbath Flea - Bassist from Red Hot Chilli Peppers Slash - Guitarist from Guns 'n' Roses He drinks and smokes his cares away His heart is in the lonely way Living in the ruins Of a castle built on sand... Tell The King - The Libertines |
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